Cars/Parts for Sale
18550 124 BC and CC Sport Coupes [dmarrese] (Tue Dec 17 17:10:48 2002)
   18551 Re: 124 BC and CC Sport Coupes [CapmWoody] (Tue Dec 17 17:16:36 2002)
      18555 Re: 124 BC and CC Sport Coupes [dmarrese] (Tue Dec 17 18:05:45 2002)
         18556 Re: Good Question [CapmWoody] (Tue Dec 17 18:41:17 2002)
            18558 Re: Good Question [spk1] (Tue Dec 17 18:53:20 2002)
         18557 Re: One more thing..... [CapmWoody] (Tue Dec 17 18:51:03 2002)
   18570 Re: Would love to bid on the one in Ohio, but.. [SportZagato] (Wed Dec 18 14:03:52 2002)
      18571 Re: Would love to bid on the one in Ohio, but.. [Zagato] (Wed Dec 18 15:17:31 2002)
         18572 Re: Would love to bid on the one in Ohio, but.. [MHeath] (Wed Dec 18 15:46:39 2002)
            18573 Re:I thought about bringing it east [dnaj] (Wed Dec 18 18:15:01 2002)
               18583 Re: Re:I thought about bringing it east [Zagato] (Thu Dec 19  4:16:30 2002)
         18585 Re: I also asked him to hold it... [SportZagato] (Thu Dec 19  6:51:01 2002)
         18587 repeating offender [LionAZ] (Thu Dec 19  8:14:39 2002)
      18607 Re: Would love to bid on the one in Ohio, but.. [mrpfiat] (Sun Dec 22 12:56:31 2002)
         18608 Oops, sold.  Never mind.   [mrpfiat] (Sun Dec 22 13:18:53 2002)
            18616 how much [cgranju] (Mon Dec 23  7:13:17 2002)
         18610 Coupe checkpoints [cripps] (Sun Dec 22 16:20:26 2002)

Do you think anyone will bid on the 2 coupes on Ebay, or are 
these cars just things of the past?

Both look pretty good for the price.  Problem for me is I 
already have three of them.  Somebody else ought to try the 
coupe if you haven't had one before.  They're my favorite of 
all the Fiats.  

CapmWoody      Time to unload some of these guys....
72 130 Coupe   Allumino Metallizzato/l'orange(project)
72 124 Coupe   Yellow/Brown (running parts car)
73 124 Coupe   Blue/Blue (project)
74 124 Coupe   Red/Black (my daily driver)
75 Beta Coupe  Red/Brown (Temporarily Up in Smoke)
77 Scorpion    SilverBlue/Blue (her daily driver)
81 Strada      Silver/Blue (Going.....Going.....)
http://www.Capm-Woody.com/Automobili/home.html

CapmWoody (Florida) wrote:
: Both look pretty good for the price.  Problem for me is I 
: already have three of them.  Somebody else ought to try the 
: coupe if you haven't had one before.  They're my favorite of 
: all the Fiats.  
: CapmWoody      Time to unload some of these guys....
: 72 130 Coupe   Allumino Metallizzato/l'orange(project)
: 72 124 Coupe   Yellow/Brown (running parts car)
: 73 124 Coupe   Blue/Blue (project)
: 74 124 Coupe   Red/Black (my daily driver)
: 75 Beta Coupe  Red/Brown (Temporarily Up in Smoke)
: 77 Scorpion    SilverBlue/Blue (her daily driver)
: 81 Strada      Silver/Blue (Going.....Going.....)
: http://www.Capm-Woody.com/Automobili/home.html


HOW DO THESE 124 CC COUPES COMPARE TO THE 74-79 RENAULT 17 
GORDINI COUPE/CONVERTIBLES? WHICH IS MORE ENJOYABLE TO 
OWN/DRIVE?

THANKS.

DM wrote:
: HOW DO THESE 124 CC COUPES COMPARE TO THE 74-79 RENAULT 17 
: GORDINI COUPE/CONVERTIBLES? WHICH IS MORE ENJOYABLE TO 
: OWN/DRIVE?

I used to have a Gordini based on the 17 or 18, I'm not sure 
which.  In a nutshell, the Gordini was very French, the Fiat 
was very Italian.  

The Gordini was one of the most comfortable small cars I have 
ever driven.  Great on the highway.  2600rpm at freeway 
speeds.  Quiet and smooth.  My butt really loved it.  It was 
FWD and handled pretty good but not like a sports car.  Fun to 
drive but not fun to drive hard.  Lots of body roll and a very 
soft, mushy suspension.

The 124 coupe is pretty much the oposite.  Not that it's 
uncomfortable, but nothing like the Gordini.  The Fiat handles 
like a real sports car.  The only suspension modification I 
made to mine was a set of Koni shocks and Pirelli P-77 tires.  
The Fiat loved to be thrown around turns, the Gordini hated 
it.  The Fiat loved to rev up really high and make all those 
real sports car sounds, the Gordini prefered to keep it more 
subdude.  The Fiat was much more reliable and parts were 
cheaper and easy to find.  Easier to work on too.  The Gordini 
motorized top was a nightmare to keep the two motors in sync.

If I were on a long road trip, I'd rather be in the Gordini.  
For everything else, I'd pick the Fiat.  This is not to say 
that the 124 coupe is not a good highway car, just that the 
Gordini is better on the open road.

Both are great cars, but very different.  When I decided to get 
rid of the Benz and get something more interesting and fun, I 
didn't even consider the Gordini.  But that's my personal 
preference.  Yours may be different.

CapmWoody      Time to unload some of these guys....
72 130 Coupe   Allumino Metallizzato/l'orange(project)
72 124 Coupe   Yellow/Brown (running parts car)
73 124 Coupe   Blue/Blue (project)
74 124 Coupe   Red/Black (my daily driver)
75 Beta Coupe  Red/Brown (Temporarily Up in Smoke)
77 Scorpion    SilverBlue/Blue (her daily driver)
81 Strada      Silver/Blue (Going.....Going.....)
http://www.Capm-Woody.com/Automobili/home.html

I inquired about the '70 and it sounds like arust bucket, 
therefore no bids. I think the CC was a NPB situation and 
relisted, but otherwise looks good. The Coupe was one of the 
best Fiats built in my opinion. Same as the spider but without 
the body roll. Feels like a different car. Trim parts are 
getting very hard to come by for the Coupes, I am totally 
unwilling (as I'm sure many others are) to let go of any of my 
Coupe parts. I plan on keeping mine and never know which little 
insignificant part I may need. I don't think the Renault 
compares in any way to the Coupe. If I want to Cruise in a 
straight line I'll buy American.

CapmWoody (Florida) wrote:
: DM wrote:
: : HOW DO THESE 124 CC COUPES COMPARE TO THE 74-79 RENAULT 17 
: : GORDINI COUPE/CONVERTIBLES? WHICH IS MORE ENJOYABLE TO 
: : OWN/DRIVE?
: I used to have a Gordini based on the 17 or 18, I'm not sure 
: which.  In a nutshell, the Gordini was very French, the Fiat 
: was very Italian.  
: The Gordini was one of the most comfortable small cars I have 
: ever driven.  Great on the highway.  2600rpm at freeway 
: speeds.  Quiet and smooth.  My butt really loved it.  It was 
: FWD and handled pretty good but not like a sports car.  Fun to 
: drive but not fun to drive hard.  Lots of body roll and a very 
: soft, mushy suspension.
: The 124 coupe is pretty much the oposite.  Not that it's 
: uncomfortable, but nothing like the Gordini.  The Fiat handles 
: like a real sports car.  The only suspension modification I 
: made to mine was a set of Koni shocks and Pirelli P-77 tires.  
: The Fiat loved to be thrown around turns, the Gordini hated 
: it.  The Fiat loved to rev up really high and make all those 
: real sports car sounds, the Gordini prefered to keep it more 
: subdude.  The Fiat was much more reliable and parts were 
: cheaper and easy to find.  Easier to work on too.  The Gordini 
: motorized top was a nightmare to keep the two motors in sync.
: If I were on a long road trip, I'd rather be in the Gordini.  
: For everything else, I'd pick the Fiat.  This is not to say 
: that the 124 coupe is not a good highway car, just that the 
: Gordini is better on the open road.
: Both are great cars, but very different.  When I decided to 
get 
: rid of the Benz and get something more interesting and fun, I 
: didn't even consider the Gordini.  But that's my personal 
: preference.  Yours may be different.
: CapmWoody      Time to unload some of these guys....
: 72 130 Coupe   Allumino Metallizzato/l'orange(project)
: 72 124 Coupe   Yellow/Brown (running parts car)
: 73 124 Coupe   Blue/Blue (project)
: 74 124 Coupe   Red/Black (my daily driver)
: 75 Beta Coupe  Red/Brown (Temporarily Up in Smoke)
: 77 Scorpion    SilverBlue/Blue (her daily driver)
: 81 Strada      Silver/Blue (Going.....Going.....)
: http://www.Capm-Woody.com/Automobili/home.html

The 72 coupe I have now has stiffer and shorter springs in the 
front and it's handling is incredible.  It is more fun to drive 
than the Scorpion.  The point is, with just simple and 
relatively cheap modifications, the 124 coupe will absolutely 
amaze you with what it can do.

CapmWoody      Time to unload some of these guys....
72 130 Coupe   Allumino Metallizzato/l'orange(project)
72 124 Coupe   Yellow/Brown (running parts car)
73 124 Coupe   Blue/Blue (project)
74 124 Coupe   Red/Black (my daily driver)
75 Beta Coupe  Red/Brown (Temporarily Up in Smoke)
77 Scorpion    SilverBlue/Blue (her daily driver)
81 Strada      Silver/Blue (Going.....Going.....)
http://www.Capm-Woody.com/Automobili/home.html

1.  I won't be in Ohio for at least a month

2.  I never buy sight unseen, I'd need to have somebody 
check it out (if anybody wants to, let me know).

3.  I'm not eligible for classic car insurance for another four
months, and three cars is a very bad thing in New York.

-Alex 
'81 Volkswagen Rabbit Diesel (aka "Thunderbunny")
'83 Bertone X1/9 VS

 It's in Akron, Iabout two hours from me and I go there often 
anyway, I can retrieve and store it for a while....somewhere, it 
may be in the barn yard under a cover, but it is a gravel lot. 
For the price, it's not a bad deal, I would go look it over but 
I am too busy here to get away for a whiole, I may nmot be able 
to go before the auction ends, however, it's the second round 
for this car, maybe you can weork out a delay with the owner if 
it doesnt' sell this time
 I want the one in Michigan.......I like black! ha ha, just 
dont' have enough money to buy it right now

Marion, Ohio, US
82 Zagato #4024 (Can be seen at: 
http://www.motorcities.com/contents/02A6A371738497.html )
01 Hyundia Elantra GT (Black is beautiful!)
87 ford F150 XLT 4X4 (Da Beata!)

Jim Keller wrote:
I sent an email to the Ohio owner.  I said if he still had it 
after February when I get my bonus, let me know.  I love that 
burgundy color.  I also told him to not hold it for me, sell it 
if he can.

Michael Heath (30 miles East of Kansas City, Missouri)
'68 850 Spyder (grey and in pieces)
'71 124 Spider - waiting for time and money
'71 124 Coupe - La Donna e mobile'.
'95 Dodge Ram extended cab (Got to have a tow-er)
'95 Mazda 626 (Daily beater)
'87 Chevy Cavalier (Now mine - going to be my bodywork practice 
vehile)

I may still. But this is the second time the owner listed it 
without lowering the price. Brot no bids last time. Wondering 
why

 Crusty floors, stuck brakes, poor pictures.......too many 
unknowns!  I don't expect it to get any bids this time either

Marion, Ohio, US
82 Zagato #4024 (Can be seen at: 
http://www.motorcities.com/contents/02A6A371738497.html )
01 Hyundia Elantra GT (Black is beautiful!)
87 ford F150 XLT 4X4 (Da Beata!)

..Since I'm actually planning on being near Akron/Canton
within a month.   But he insisted on re-listing it - it's a
classic car dealership.   

If you can get there, let me know.   You wouldn't have to
store it for me if it ran well - I could just have it delivered
to my friend's house in Akron, then drive it home to New 
York.   Thanks for the offer.  :)

I'm still not firm on it though.  

I agree, also - the Black one looks really great.   Better, I 
think, than the burgundy one.  But as I happen to be going
right to the Akron/Canton area...

-Alex 
'81 Volkswagen Rabbit Diesel (aka "Thunderbunny")
'83 Bertone X1/9 VS

 Err has anyone gone and looked at this car yet? I suppose I 
dont mind rust, and I dont mind flying out and fixing it.. but 
i'd hate to fly out there and find it in much much worse 
condition than the auction says. 
 
 Its a bit odd, around here, at that price, someone would have 
bought even a pinto with a pre-lit fire just to drive it into 
the ground. 

I'll be about twenty miles from Canton for a couple days after 
Christmas.  If family obligations don't prevent it, I'll try to 
take a look.  I've never had a coupe, so is there anything that I 
might not know to look for?


Mark Patterson
1972 Fiat 124 Spider
1971 Alfa Romeo 1750 Berlina

Mark Patterson
1972 Fiat 124 Spider

just curiuos, what did the Ohio coupe go for?


Chris G
------------------
6 124s, 1 X 1/9, lots of parts, chaos
Knoxville, TN

Mark Patterson wrote:

:I've never had a coupe, so is there anything that I 
: might not know to look for?

Mechanically the 124 coupe is virtually the same as the spider,
so you will know what to look for there.

On the body, obviously check for rust. A common problem area is
just below the windshield trim at the front, and in a similar
place at the rear. Even small bubbles in those areas indicate
larger problems beneath, and the glass needs to come out for a
proper repair. Also the back of the rear wheel arches tends to go.

Another thing to check is that all the interior and exterior trim
pieces are present -- these can be very difficult to find. Also
bumpers and glass.

Peter
Redwood City, CA
1973 124 coupé http://www.petercripps.com/Fiat/coupe.jpg 
1980 124 spider http://www.petercripps.com/Fiat/spider.jpg 
1988 Mazda RX7

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