Tech Questions/Advice
74126 Carbon monoxide heavier than air? [carlf] (Sat Dec 22 6:17:50 2001)
74129 Re: Carbon monoxide heavier than air? no,but [Todd] (Sat Dec 22 7:46:54 2001)
74133 helps to start outside then bring in. [onetwentyfour] (Sat Dec 22 10:49:58 2001)
74134 Re: Carbon monoxide heavier than air? [Dubinsky] (Sat Dec 22 13:46:48 2001)
74136 here, here! [early124] (Sat Dec 22 16:59:12 2001)
74138 At least buy a detector. [rhndrsn] (Sat Dec 22 18:59:57 2001)
74314 friend nearly died doing this [toddb] (Fri Dec 28 22:19:22 2001)
Message#: 74126
Subject: Carbon monoxide heavier than air?
From: CARL FRIEDMAN [carlf]
(carl.friedman@uspto.gov)
Date: Sat Dec 22 6:17:50 2001
Replies: 74129, 74134, 74314
Starting to use kerosene heater in the garage and sometimes get
a good buzz going. I have a high ceiling in the garage and
wonder if by the time I get it warm at my level I don't already
have a lot of monoxide hanging around me. Yes I know I'm
supposed to vent some frest air, I thought the 1 or 2 inch gap
around the garage door was enough....obviously not.
Carl....Buzz Lightyear
Northern Virginia
80 spider (40 IDF)
81 spider, auto/AC....starting on the floors today.
email user is AFried1234 and domain is aol.com (Home)
carl.email user is friedman and domain is uspto.gov
Message#: 74129
Subject: Re: Carbon monoxide heavier than air? no,but
From: Todd [Todd]
(toddr@zeltex.com)
Date: Sat Dec 22 7:46:54 2001
In-Response-To: 74126
Replies: 74133
CARL FRIEDMAN wrote:
carbondioxide is heavier than air. You do need some airflow other
than from the heater.
Todd Rosenthal
Hagerstown, MD
72 124 Fiat Spider
95 Mitsubishi 3000GT Spyder
97 Grand Prix
98 Jeep Grand Cherokee
Message#: 74133
Subject: helps to start outside then bring in.
From: Tim Price [onetwentyfour]
(hchevy00@hotmail.com)
Date: Sat Dec 22 10:49:58 2001
In-Response-To: 74129
mine stinks 'till it gets rollin'. burn is important, kind of
like too big of jets, :) if the wick is set too high.
over(buzz)and out.
Tim Price
Binghamton NY
1976 Fiat 124 spider
1979
Chevy pickup
Message#: 74134
Subject: Re: Carbon monoxide heavier than air?
From: Al Dubinsky [Dubinsky]
(dubinsky@icubed.com)
Date: Sat Dec 22 13:46:48 2001
In-Response-To: 74126
Replies: 74136
Carl, you're a smart person, and we want to keep you around for a
while. I don't need to tell you about the dangers of carbon
monoxide. You won't feel a buzz. It almost killed my older
brother, my car's PO. He was working with the garage door closed.
He should have died, but didn't, and the brain damage he
continues to suffer is pathetic. Initially, his short term memory
was wiped out. It was like trying to tape a program, but you
forgot to put the "record" button down. What had been a promising
career (he was a USMC Captain) was ended, his wife divorced him,
and he hasn't been able to hold a job in over 20 years.
Do us all a favor and ventilate.
Al Dubinsky :}
'74 124 Spider
Pittsburgh, PA
"Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana."
Message#: 74136
Subject: here, here!
From: Pete Angel (Colo Sprgs, CO) [early124]
(pete.angel@att.net)
Date: Sat Dec 22 16:59:12 2001
In-Response-To: 74134
Replies: 74138
Al Dubinsky wrote:
: Do us all a favor and ventilate.
The voice of reason speaks. Place that heater outdoors and vent
the heat inside. It isn't so much the carbon monoxide output by
the heater as much as the oxygen that is being consumed by the
unit. They should put a warning label on those units. Oh, they
do. Abide and survive.
Pete
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Pete Angel, Forum member since 1998
1968 124AS Spider (passing thru Utah):
http://mirafiori.com/~pete/68124as/pic1.JPG
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Message#: 74138
Subject: At least buy a detector.
From: russell henderson [rhndrsn]
(rhndrsn@fmtc.net)
Date: Sat Dec 22 18:59:57 2001
In-Response-To: 74136
You could try one of those carbon monoxide detectors. I think
the newer ones work relatively well. The older ones were
terrible and they had several recalls (first alert) I know in
the airplane I used to fly I used a stick on detector that had
some kind of tape that would turn color if the plane had to much
carbon monoxide. It work pretty good. I used to buy them from
an outfit called Sporty's.
Russ
Fort Mill, South Carolina
'76 124 Spider (aka The Love Chariot)
'78 Alfa Spider (the Rust bucket)
'95 Ford Explorer (Wife's grocery car)
'94 Ford Ranger (to dolly the Italian rust bucket around)
'2000 Ford Ranger (to dolly my fat rear-end around work)
'61 model wife (to otherwise keep me from spending to much on
cars. Oh yeah, she is not firing on all cylinders)
Message#: 74314
Subject: friend nearly died doing this
From: Todd Blanset [toddb]
(twblanset@mail.com)
Date: Fri Dec 28 22:19:22 2001
In-Response-To: 74126
Be very careful. A friend of mine nearly died using a kerosene
heater that wasn't vented. He stumbled out the door before
losing conciousness. His wife found him in the snow and he
spent a day in a hyperbaric chamber at UCLA purging his
circulatory system. He doesn't use them any more.