/F/I/A/T/ /B/S/ (12916) - Abarth 1000 TC

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12916 Abarth 1000 TC [pete.angel] (Mon Sep  6 19:28:35 1999)
   12921 Re: Abarth 1000 TC [oscar] (Mon Sep  6 20:30:50 1999)
      12923 Re: Abarth 1000 TC [Marko] (Mon Sep  6 21:06:15 1999)
   12926 Re: Abarth 1000 TC [fiat850] (Tue Sep  7  3:13:04 1999)
      12927 Email me for 1000 TC photos!  [fiat850] (Tue Sep  7  4:48:21 1999)
   12938 CORRECTION Abarth 1000 OT (not TC) [pete.angel] (Tue Sep  7 10:51:37 1999)
      12943 Re: CORRECTION Abarth 1000 OT (not TC) [oscar] (Tue Sep  7 12:56:56 1999)
         12990 More than just OT Coupes & Spiders [fiat850] (Wed Sep  8  1:43:44 1999)
            13000 Sorry - I forgot the Sedans [oscar] (Wed Sep  8  6:43:49 1999)
      12989 Ok. I'll send the OT pics as well... [fiat850] (Wed Sep  8  1:34:05 1999)
   12969 you guys are awesome [pete.angel] (Tue Sep  7 20:31:21 1999)
      13006 As long as were talking OT's [Kevin.harper] (Wed Sep  8  8:16:12 1999)

Message#: 12916
Subject: Abarth 1000 TC
From: pete angel [pete.angel] (email user is pete and domain is mirafiori.com)
Date: Mon Sep 6 19:28:35 1999
Replies: 12921, 12926, 12938, 12969

Anyone know where I can find a pic or two of this car?

Pete Angel
68 124 Spider | 69 124 Coupe | 70 124 Spider
Colorado, USA 80922 | FLU Rocky Mtn Chapter
email : email user is pete and domain is mirafiori.com
events: http://mirafiori.com/~pete/17events.html
webpg : http://home.att.net/~pete.angel/afw/home.html

Message#: 12921
Subject: Re: Abarth 1000 TC
From: Oscar Robinson [oscar] (email user is orobinson and domain is topher.net)
Date: Mon Sep 6 20:30:50 1999
In-Response-To: 12916
Replies: 12923

Pete:

Help me out with this one.  Abarth made an 850TC based on the 
600 body with a completely-Abarth twin-cam head.  And they made 
the Belina Corsa, it was 1-liter, but push-rod based on the 600
body and engine.

And Abarth made the 850-based 1-liter cars, which were the 
OT1000 series: 1000 OT, 1000 OTS, and 1000 OTR.  

I'm confused about the '1000 TC' designation. Which body and 
engine was it based on?  Or is that the question?

Oscar Robinson
1958 Fiat Abarth Zagato 750
1962 Fiat 600D Sedan
1966 Fiat 850 Coupe [originally from Deutsche Fiat AG]
1967 Fiat Abarth 1300/124 [owned since new]
1969 Fiat 850 Berlina Special,"Africa" Model made by SEAT
Dallas, Texas
ICQ# 236518

Message#: 12923
Subject: Re: Abarth 1000 TC
From: Mark Mongillo [Marko] (email user is fiat600 and domain is wolfenet.com)
Date: Mon Sep 6 21:06:15 1999
In-Response-To: 12921

According to "Abarth Buyer's Guide" by Peter Vack, the 1000TC was 
built from '62 to '64.  A picture on page 34 shows a fairly stock 
looking 600D bodied car, ie, no radiator in the nose.  4"x13" 
magnesium-alloy Elektron wheels were an option.  The early cars 
used 600D blocks bored and stroked out to 982cc.  Later cars used 
the special castings from Bialbero's and Monomilles, identified 
by the AH cast into the right side of the block.
 
Marko
Oregon City, Oregon
1958 600 Multipla, rusty butt
1959 500N convertable, awaiting reassembly
1959 600 Sedan, Fiamp,120 volt electric conversion
1960 600 Multipla, returning to the earth
196? 850 Spider, electric Barchetta candidate

Message#: 12926
Subject: Re: Abarth 1000 TC
From: Jeff Stich [fiat850] (email user is fiat850 and domain is earthlink.net)
Date: Tue Sep 7 3:13:04 1999
In-Response-To: 12916
Replies: 12927

pete angel wrote:
: Anyone know where I can find a pic or two of this car?

Hi Pete! 
 
 Check your email for the photos (Sorry guys, I'm computer 
illiterate & don't know how to post a photo-link!) :^)

According to the book "Abarth Catalogue Raisonne" (p.185/p.191), 
the 1000 TC was based on the 600d body & engine (65x74=982cc). 
 
 The 1965 1000 TC had a stock-looking body with the small 
"catfish" front radiator shroud, tripod-style rear deck lid 
props, a 12.2:1 compression ratio, Weber 36 DCD7 carb, 80HP @ 
7400RPM, 5-speed gearbox, front & rear disc brakes, 4.5"x13" 
tires on narrow Campagnolo wheels, weighed 590-617kg & had a top 
speed of around 185-190KPH.

 The 1966 "1000 TC Berlina Corsa" had the late (larger) front 
radiator shroud, tripod deck lid props, flared front fenders & 
large rear fender flares, a 13:1 compression ratio, Weber 36 DCD7 
carb, 85HP @ 7600RPM, 5-speed gearbox, front & rear disc brakes, 
4.5"x13" tires on narrow Campagnolo wheels (huh? Photo shows WIDE 
tires on DEEP Campy' wheels), weighed 585kg & had a top speed of 
around 195KPH.  

 Obviously, there are other years/versions of the 1000 TC, but 
this is what I could find at the moment... anyone else have any 
specs/photos?

Jeff Stich
Yorba Linda, Ca.

1969 Fiat 850 Spider (daily driver/beater)
1969 Fiat 850 Coupe  (Euro. specs & RHD)
1969 Fiat 850 Sedan  (my very first car!)
1957 Fiat 600 Sedan  (coming soon!)

Rear Engine Fiat Club member

Message#: 12927
Subject: Email me for 1000 TC photos!
From: Jeff Stich [fiat850] (email user is fiat850 and domain is earthlink.net)
Date: Tue Sep 7 4:48:21 1999
In-Response-To: 12926

Why are you looking here?  means "No Text"! :^D

: Jeff Stich
: Yorba Linda, Ca.
: 1969 Fiat 850 Spider (daily driver/beater)
: 1969 Fiat 850 Coupe  (Euro. specs & RHD)
: 1969 Fiat 850 Sedan  (my very first car!)
: 1957 Fiat 600 Sedan  (coming soon!)
: Rear Engine Fiat Club member

Message#: 12938
Subject: CORRECTION Abarth 1000 OT (not TC)
From: pete angel [pete.angel] (email user is pete and domain is mirafiori.com)
Date: Tue Sep 7 10:51:37 1999
In-Response-To: 12916
Replies: 12943, 12989

whoops, that was OT, no TC. Hope the email pics still apply. I 
was typing with one finger while chatting with owner of the car 
on the phone, at the same time checking the daughter's homework, 
and the dog was chewing on the phone line plus a meteor shower 
was threatening the general well-being of all involved.

Pete Angel
68 124 Spider | 69 124 Coupe | 70 124 Spider
Colorado, USA 80922 | FLU Rocky Mtn Chapter
email : email user is pete and domain is mirafiori.com
events: http://mirafiori.com/~pete/17events.html
webpg : http://home.att.net/~pete.angel/afw/home.html

Message#: 12943
Subject: Re: CORRECTION Abarth 1000 OT (not TC)
From: Oscar Robinson [oscar] (email user is orobinson and domain is topher.net)
Date: Tue Sep 7 12:56:56 1999
In-Response-To: 12938
Replies: 12990

Pete:

At least one set of Abarth cars were called 1000 OT and were 
based on the 850 Coupe and Spider.  Matt Ruiz has some great 
data sheets on these cars! 

Oscar Robinson
1958 Fiat Abarth Zagato 750
1962 Fiat 600D Sedan
1966 Fiat 850 Coupe [originally from Deutsche Fiat AG]
1967 Fiat Abarth 1300/124 [owned since new]
1969 Fiat 850 Berlina Special,"Africa" Model made by SEAT
Dallas, Texas
ICQ# 236518

Message#: 12990
Subject: More than just OT Coupes & Spiders
From: Jeff Stich [fiat850] (email user is fiat850 and domain is earthlink.net)
Date: Wed Sep 8 1:43:44 1999
In-Response-To: 12943
Replies: 13000

Oscar Robinson wrote:
: Pete:
: At least one set of Abarth cars were called 1000 OT and were 
: based on the 850 Coupe and Spider.

Oscar, Oscar, Oscar! How could you forget our favorites, the 850 
Sedan-based OT's?  LOL :^)

Jeff Stich
Yorba Linda, Ca.

1969 Fiat 850 Spider (daily driver/beater)
1969 Fiat 850 Coupe  (Euro. specs & RHD)
1969 Fiat 850 Sedan  (my very first car!)

Rear Engine Fiat Club member

Message#: 13000
Subject: Sorry - I forgot the Sedans
From: Oscar Robinson [oscar] (email user is orobinson and domain is topher.net)
Date: Wed Sep 8 6:43:49 1999
In-Response-To: 12990

: Oscar, Oscar, Oscar! How could you forget our favorites, the 
850 
: Sedan-based OT's?  LOL :^)
: Jeff Stich
: Yorba Linda, Ca.

I guess because there were so few of them, I just went brain-
dead.  But you're right, the little one was a 1000 OT, too!

Oscar Robinson
1958 Fiat Abarth Zagato 750
1962 Fiat 600D Sedan
1966 Fiat 850 Coupe [originally from Deutsche Fiat AG]
1967 Fiat Abarth 1300/124 [owned since new]
1969 Fiat 850 Berlina Special,"Africa" Model made by SEAT
Dallas, Texas
ICQ# 236518

Message#: 12989
Subject: Ok. I'll send the OT pics as well...
From: Jeff Stich [fiat850] (email user is fiat850 and domain is earthlink.net)
Date: Wed Sep 8 1:34:05 1999
In-Response-To: 12938

pete angel wrote:
: whoops, that was OT, no TC. Hope the email pics still apply.

 Was that your email server? :^)

Jeff Stich
Yorba Linda, Ca.

1969 Fiat 850 Spider (daily driver/beater)
1969 Fiat 850 Coupe  (Euro. specs & RHD)
1969 Fiat 850 Sedan  (my very first car!)

Rear Engine Fiat Club member

Message#: 12969
Subject: you guys are awesome
From: pete angel [pete.angel] (email user is pete and domain is mirafiori.com)
Date: Tue Sep 7 20:31:21 1999
In-Response-To: 12916
Replies: 13006

just received a gazillion terbytes of spec sheets and photos 
from Jeff Stich. Ain't email wonderous? Thanks gang.

Pete Angel
68 124 Spider | 69 124 Coupe | 70 124 Spider
Colorado, USA 80922 | FLU Rocky Mtn Chapter
email : email user is pete and domain is mirafiori.com
events: http://mirafiori.com/~pete/17events.html
webpg : http://home.att.net/~pete.angel/afw/home.html

Message#: 13006
Subject: As long as were talking OT's
From: Kevin Harper [Kevin.harper] (Kevin.email user is Harper and domain is lmco.com)
Date: Wed Sep 8 8:16:12 1999
In-Response-To: 12969

Has anybody seen recently an Abarth 1300 OT. It looks a little 
like a 246 dino or a porsche 904. It has a 1300 cc engine with a 
DOHC head on it. Don't know if it is any relationship to the 128 
engine though. It is a mid engine car with the engine in North 
south config. 
I remember seeing one of these as a teenager and suffering 
serious car lust for it. I even had a photocopy of it taken from 
one of those "year in automobile books" probably circa 1966.
I wonder what one cost now?
KLH

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