Mon 18th Oct 1999 05:40am As promised, Update on the 500s (Jim Thwaite)
      Mon 18th Oct 1999 05:52am Re: As promised, Update on the 500s (Jim Thwaite)
      Mon 18th Oct 1999 10:09am Re: As promised, Update on the 500s (Lalo)
           Mon 18th Oct 1999 10:35am Different Animals (Oscar Robinson)
                Mon 18th Oct 1999 11:06am Re: Different Animals- or the same?? (Csaba Vandor)
           Mon 18th Oct 1999 11:20am It's an Autobianchi Bianchina Transmutable (Ulix Goettsch)
                Mon 18th Oct 1999 01:15pm Yep! That's it! (Jim Thwaite)

15279 Mon 18th Oct 1999 05:40am As promised, Update on the 500s (Jim Thwaite)
A little more data is surfacing on these cars, please forgive any 
inaccuracies as I am not very literate on these cars.  I still 
havent seen them but the soon to be new owner went for a detailed 
inspection and here is the report.  I belive he said one is a 59 
and one is a 60.  He also belives they are "Bianchini's" Not 
entirely sure what that means but I guess you folks do.  They 
both have the sliding soft top that goes the whole way back.  One 
car is complete and very presentable but showing the dirt 
collection of 20 years of storage, minor rust in the rockers, no 
other rust noted, good top and interior for it's age. Needs a new 
axle.  The other car is essentially dissasembled, but all there.  
It will of course dontate an axle to the first car (anyone know 
where to get an axle for one of these, Im still trying to work 
out possession of the "parts" car so I can save it)  The new 
owner has secured the permision of his SO (so long as he paints 
HER new fiat 500 the color she wants :) ) and deposits have been 
made so it looks like these things will be saved :) 
Anyone who can provide some insight into these cars all input is 
gladly accepted.  Damn, I cant belive Im this excited and they 
arent even going to be mine :)

Jim
74 128 SL (I LOVE this car!)(I can keep it if I sell the others)
78 Alfa Romeo Spider (For sale $1700 or fiat trade)
And a bunch of non-italian stuff......

15281 Mon 18th Oct 1999 05:52am Re: As promised, Update on the 500s (Jim Thwaite)
Ok, after a little web surfing what I am inclined to belive is he 
meant these were Autobianchis, I still dont know if that is 
right, but they are the little notchback coupe with the short top 
that ends where the rear quaterglass would be on a standard 500 
thus giving them a short top and a little decklid over the trunk.
Jim
74 128 SL (I LOVE this car!)(I can keep it if I sell the others)
78 Alfa Romeo Spider (For sale $1700 or fiat trade)
And a bunch of non-italian stuff......

15290 Mon 18th Oct 1999 10:09am Re: As promised, Update on the 500s (Lalo)
I want a 500!!!!

Give a call to Obert.  He can answer any question you might have 
regarding 500's and 500 parts.  Bet he can get you an axle, too!


-Lalo
Executive Advisor, Fiat America
'74 X1/9       1500cc FI, 5-spd, PBS Big Valve Head,
               cam, etc...
'81 Brava      FI, 5-spd
'69 850 Coupe  "Big Block" sporting dual Dellortos,
               30/65 cam and Abarth exhaust...
'68 850 Coupe  Chassis donor
'71 850 Coupe  Everyday beater car
'67 850 Spider Waiting it's turn at having $$ and time
               thrown at it...

15292 Mon 18th Oct 1999 10:35am Different Animals (Oscar Robinson)
FWIW, the Bianchina and the Autobianchi were from different 
manufacturers.  The Bianchina was a Fiat model name [I think] 
like Topolino; Autobiachi is a seperate car company.

There's got to be an identifying name somewhere on the cars!

Oscar Robinson
1958 Fiat Abarth Zagato 750
1962 Fiat 600D Sedan
1966 Fiat 850 Coupe [originally from Deutsche Fiat AG]
1967 Fiat Abarth 1300/124 [owned since new]
1969 Fiat 850 Berlina Special,"Africa" Model made by SEAT
Dallas, Texas
ICQ# 236518

15293 Mon 18th Oct 1999 11:06am Re: Different Animals- or the same?? (Csaba Vandor)
Oscar Robinson wrote:
: FWIW, the Bianchina and the Autobianchi were from different 
: manufacturers.  The Bianchina was a Fiat model name [I think] 
: like Topolino; Autobiachi is a seperate car company.

AFAIK, from the descriptions, these cars sound like they are 
Autobianchi Bianchinas.  Autobianchi is the make (as in Fiat), 
and Bianchina is the model (as in 124 Spider).  They were 
basically fiat 500s with a different body.  Autobianchi was later 
assimilated into Lancia.  A few years ago in Italy they still 
sold a small car called Autobianchi Y10, but in foreign markets 
they just called it the Lancia Y10.
______________________________________________
Csaba Vandor
Mechanical Power Technology graduate
Seeking employment!
Volvo enthusiast and Fiat fanatic
'84 Volvo 245Ti       '70 124 Spider 
  temporary resident: '83 Pininfarina Spider

15294 Mon 18th Oct 1999 11:20am It's an Autobianchi Bianchina Transmutable (Ulix Goettsch)
Jim,
I am almost certain they are Autobianchi Bianchinas.  They are 
Fiat 500 based, but have a much more grown up looking body.  
The model you describe is the one most common in the US, the 
Transmutable, often referred to as the convertible.  This is 
confusing because in Europe a real full convertible was sold that 
is just unbelievably cute.  It was my dream car when I was 15...

Look here:
http://www.csg-net.it/bianchina_club/inglese/moding.htm
Click on "technical data" for a heart-stopping picture  :-)

Here is another photo of a Transmutable:
http://we.got.net/~fiatplus/sams.htm

Have fun!
15hp!  And they call it "potenza", hahahaha

UliX1/9 
(K&N40DCNF12PBS1100SX1PLEX201PBS4INTO1CD91KYB185/60RE71R:-)
                                  __/__,__      ___/__|__
.................................(_o____o_)....<_O_____O_/...
                                 '67 Sprite     '74 X1/9

              http://students.washington.edu/~ulix/Autos.html

15301 Mon 18th Oct 1999 01:15pm Yep! That's it! (Jim Thwaite)
Based upon his description and a picture he showed me (not of the 
cars but one he said looked like them) that must be what these 
are.  They are cute!
Jim
74 128 SL (I LOVE this car!)(I can keep it if I sell the others)
78 Alfa Romeo Spider (For sale $1700 or fiat trade)
And a bunch of non-italian stuff......