Mon 16th Oct 2006 09:49pm WANTED....reasonably priced brake booster for (Mike Mudge)
      Tue 17th Oct 2006 04:05am Re: WANTED....reasonably priced brake booster for (Jon Prisbe)
      Tue 17th Oct 2006 05:25am Re: WANTED....reasonably priced brake booster for (Bruce's)
           Sat 21st Oct 2006 06:49am Re: WANTED....reasonably priced brake booster for (Mike Mudge)
           Sat 21st Oct 2006 06:51am One more thing. (Mike Mudge)
                Sat 21st Oct 2006 11:36am All Spider Power Brake Boosters the same... (3rdx)
                Sat 21st Oct 2006 05:40pm Re: One more thing. (Pete Angel (Rocky Mtns, CO 80922))
                     Sat 21st Oct 2006 06:37pm Re: One more thing. (Csaba Vandor)
                Sat 21st Oct 2006 07:19pm Re: WANTED....reasonably priced brake booster for (Bruce's)
                     Sat 21st Oct 2006 09:19pm Re: WANTED....reasonably priced brake booster for (Gregory Smith, Olympia, WA, USA)
                          Sat 21st Oct 2006 09:47pm Yeah, KD told me to go with the radial ply hose. (Mike Mudge)
                          Sun 22nd Oct 2006 08:46am Re: WANTED....reasonably priced brake booster for (Bruce's)
                          Sun 22nd Oct 2006 01:04pm Booster Check valve (Alvon Elrod (Ventura, CA -- near Los Angeles))
                               Sun 22nd Oct 2006 03:11pm Re: WANTED.... (Kelly Dicker)
                               Sun 22nd Oct 2006 05:25pm Re: Booster Check valve (Csaba Vandor)
                                    Sun 22nd Oct 2006 08:04pm Oh . . . does Bruce stock those? ;>) (Alvon Elrod (Ventura, CA -- near Los Angeles))
                                         Mon 23rd Oct 2006 05:08am Re: Oh . . . does Bruce stock those? ;>) (Bruce's)

23990 Mon 16th Oct 2006 09:49pm WANTED....reasonably priced brake booster for (Mike Mudge)
'79 124 Spider.  I'm not 100% sure that it's shot but it's looking that way. I 
would consider a good used one with some assurance that it is good, or a new 
unit.  I'm seeing them at the vendors from 148 (Bayless re-man) to 225 at 
Bruces (new).  

I need a bargin.

Thanks,

Mudge

23991 Tue 17th Oct 2006 04:05am Re: WANTED....reasonably priced brake booster for (Jon Prisbe)
Mike,

I have one I pulled from a running '76 124 Spider last year.

If you want to pay the shipping I will send it to you. 
You can check it out and if it works out for you, you pay me what you consider 
to be reasonable.

Jon Prisbe
Fruitport, MI
Catch the FLU... the West Michigan FLU
http://flumichigan.italiancarclub.com
'76 Spider (Spy Doctor)
'70 Triumph Spitfire MK3
'64 Triumph TR4 (Abbey)

23992 Tue 17th Oct 2006 05:25am Re: WANTED....reasonably priced brake booster for (Bruce's)
I might be able to give you a 10 % Mira discount on this item.  ( discount not 
a reg thing.. :))


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24030 Sat 21st Oct 2006 06:49am Re: WANTED....reasonably priced brake booster for (Mike Mudge)
Thanks, Bruce.:)  I'm still chasing the problem.  I'm not so sure it's the 
booster but possibly the vacuum hose.  I'm trying to locate some OEM hose and 
give that a shot 1st. It looks to be about 5 bucks a foot and the ID about 
5/8". Haven't been able to locate any locally so far.

Mike

Bruce's wrote:
: I might be able to give you a 10 % Mira discount on this item.  ( discount 
not 
: a reg thing.. :))
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24031 Sat 21st Oct 2006 06:51am One more thing. (Mike Mudge)
From what I'm reading it looks like there was a design change to the booster 
beginning in 1979. Is that correct?

Mike

24034 Sat 21st Oct 2006 11:36am All Spider Power Brake Boosters the same... (3rdx)
Hi Mike

There was a Styling Change by Bendix/Benditalia/DBA the Italian OE Fiat Maker.
Remember that occuring in about 1988 to 1989...
as the Benditalia Part Number that I ordered from Bendix - changed.
Yet, that was just to beef up the Interior Rubber - as I recall.
No change in fitability or interchangeability occurs in the 124 Spider Booster.

Any OE Fiat Booster will work, yet, I think the later styling is preferable.

There might have been a slight variation in physical appearance, yet Fiat SpA
and Fiat USA always kept the same Fiat Part Number - 4383090.

Technically, No Change in the 124 Spider Power Brake Booster as Fiat sold.
All the same.

Wroted this before... 90% of Fiat Spider Power Brake Booster problems are...
1) In the Vacuum Line so replace all Vacuum Line before buying a Booster
- cannot hurt and most Fiats can use new Vacuum Line
2) Retrace your Recent Arm and Hand excursions into your Engine Compartment
- Look for Loose Connects primarily on Intake Side... very typical solution

Still got my money on one of the above, Mike - you don't need No Booster.
Believe it - and it will become True.

Vacuum Hose at 5 bones/foot ? My, how times have changed.
Should be around a buck a Foot for most OE Maker Hose for most Foreign Cars.
You don't need OE Fiat Vacuum Line Hose, Mike.
Just High-Quality Vacuum Line in the correct size will fix you up proper.

Please let us know your success asap.

Regards,

24036 Sat 21st Oct 2006 05:40pm Re: One more thing. (Pete Angel (Rocky Mtns, CO 80922))
Mike Mudge wrote:
: From what I'm reading it looks like there was a design change to the booster 
: beginning in 1979. Is that correct?

There was a design change in the Spider/Coupe brake booster for the '69 model 
year, but not of significant fit or function change. The earlier boosters had a 
threaded fitting with a banjo bolt for the hose. This was a more robust (and 
cooler looking) design than the grommet and push-in elbow with check valve. The 
early design incorporated an in-line check valve in the hose itself. 

Pete

24037 Sat 21st Oct 2006 06:37pm Re: One more thing. (Csaba Vandor)
Pete,

: The earlier boosters had a 
: threaded fitting with a banjo bolt for the hose. This was a more robust (and 
: cooler looking) design than the grommet and push-in elbow with check valve.
The 
: early design incorporated an in-line check valve in the hose itself. 

In the mid 70s they had a banjo fitting that had a built in checkvalve.  I think
I saw that on the '74-75 fiche.  So it was around the mid-70s that they changed
it from the threaded fitting to a simple rubber grommet and plastic checkvalve.
My '71 has the inline checkvalve as you descrive.
Mike, as long as you get the checkvalve with the booster it does not matter what
year it's from.  If you get one from and early 124 (pre-72ish) than you may have
to add a checkvalve in the hose.

Csaba Vandor
'71 124 Spider, hi-po 2L, 3.90 with LSD, A/C, R&P, big brakes
'67 850 Coupe, future TC conversion
personal: http://www.geocities.com/f124ss/
work: http://www.vickauto.com

24040 Sat 21st Oct 2006 07:19pm Re: WANTED....reasonably priced brake booster for (Bruce's)
Just use some proper size heater hose...


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24041 Sat 21st Oct 2006 09:19pm Re: WANTED....reasonably priced brake booster for (Gregory Smith, Olympia, WA, USA)
Bruce's wrote:
: Just use some proper size heater hose...

Uh uh, it will collapse.  The brake booster hose is a reinforced hose, because
it sees manifold vacuum.

You may be able to use heater hose for temporary diagnostic purposes, 
perhaps that's what Bruce meant.

Gregory Smith
'87 Bertone X1/9 Corsa

24042 Sat 21st Oct 2006 09:47pm Yeah, KD told me to go with the radial ply hose. (Mike Mudge)
Most others get sucked flat.

Mudge

24043 Sun 22nd Oct 2006 08:46am Re: WANTED....reasonably priced brake booster for (Bruce's)
You can get re-enforced hose at Home Depot.

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24044 Sun 22nd Oct 2006 01:04pm Booster Check valve (Alvon Elrod (Ventura, CA -- near Los Angeles))
Csaba Vandor (and Pete) wrote:
: Pete,
: : The earlier boosters had a threaded fitting with a banjo bolt for the hose. 
This was a more robust (and cooler looking) design than the grommet and push-in 
elbow with check valve. The early design incorporated an in-line check valve in 
the hose itself. 
: In the mid 70s they had a banjo fitting that had a built in checkvalve.  I 
think I saw that on the '74-75 fiche.  So it was around the mid-70s that they 
changed it from the threaded fitting to a simple rubber grommet and plastic 
checkvalve. My '71 has the inline checkvalve as you descrive.
: Mike, as long as you get the checkvalve with the booster it does not matter 
what year it's from.  If you get one from and early 124 (pre-72ish) than you 
may have to add a checkvalve in the hose.
__________________________________________________________

My '70 has the banjo fitting thingy, that is attached to the booster with a 
threaded fitting and spacers.  See http://makeashorterlink.com/?F29B5250E

The check valve is integral to the banjo fitting.  Any recommendations for 
cleaning the check valve?  I don't want to put a solvent into it that would 
damage it, and I can't tell if there are any rubber or plastic parts inside.  
Reason I am asking is that my front brakes are making some weird growling 
noises, that I think might be related to the booster / Check Valve.  

alvon
'70 124 spider, mod 1.8L 

24045 Sun 22nd Oct 2006 03:11pm Re: WANTED.... (Kelly Dicker)
Could be flashing but I thought I e-mailed the dimensions to be 12mm X 3.5mm if 
I recall correctly- regardless, if you can't find it in Sac. I can send you 
some Mike. Would need to know how long a section you think that you need. 

kd   

Kelly Dicker           kd@wcmotors.com
Wine Country Motors    http://www.wcmotors.com
755 Sixth Street       707-255-8697
Napa, CA 94559         707-255-6466 Fax

24047 Sun 22nd Oct 2006 05:25pm Re: Booster Check valve (Csaba Vandor)
Alvon,

: Any recommendations for cleaning the check valve?  

Why not just get a new one?  I know at least one vendor that has them.

Csaba Vandor
'71 124 Spider, hi-po 2L, 3.90 with LSD, A/C, R&P, big brakes
'67 850 Coupe, future TC conversion
personal: http://www.geocities.com/f124ss/
work: http://www.vickauto.com

24048 Sun 22nd Oct 2006 08:04pm Oh . . . does Bruce stock those? ;>) (Alvon Elrod (Ventura, CA -- near Los Angeles))
I'll contact you tomorrow, Csaba.

alvon
'70 124 spider, mod 1.8L 

24049 Mon 23rd Oct 2006 05:08am Re: Oh . . . does Bruce stock those? ;>) (Bruce's)
You are right :)

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