I am converting my sedan to studs for the alloy wheels I just 
got (shouldered nuts) and need a set of wheel nuts to attach the 
spare tire(stock Fiat steel rim). They look like wheel nuts you 
would find on any other car, nothing fancy.  Need four for spare 
tire but would really like a set of 16 so I can attach all 4 
stock wheels if needed.

Carl
Northern Virginia
78 spider (2L,IDFs)
74 124 TC (2L,5-speed)


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CARL FRIEDMAN wrote:

:need a set of wheel nuts to attach the 
: spare tire(stock Fiat steel rim). They look like wheel nuts you 
: would find on any other car, nothing fancy.  

Carl, I'm pretty sure these were available at my local Pep 
Boys. At the time, I was looking for lug bolts, which they didn't 
have .... maybe worth checking.

Peter
Redwood City, CA
1973 124 coupe (project)
1980 124 spider (driver)
1988 Mazda RX7 (transportation)

Peter Cripps wrote:
: CARL FRIEDMAN wrote:
: :need a set of wheel nuts to attach the 
: : spare tire(stock Fiat steel rim). They look like wheel nuts 
you 
: : would find on any other car, nothing fancy.  
: Carl, I'm pretty sure these were available at my local Pep 
: Boys. At the time, I was looking for lug bolts, which they 
didn't 
: have .... maybe worth checking.

I got a set of four tapered nuts at Pep Boys for my spare tire. I 
think they are fine, though haven't had the need to use them yet.

Mike
Spidie: '76 124 Spider project 
       ('77 hauled to Pick-a-Part, RIP old girl)
Snort:  '72 124 Sedan (carbed 2l and 5 speed)
Smoggy-Pasadena, CA
http://www.its.caltech.edu/~mulman

Thanks for the headsup guys. I got so fixated on the 4X98 
spacing of the lugs that I forgot the actual thread size is 
probably the same as a bazillion metric cars.

Carl
Northern Virginia
78 spider (2L,IDFs)
74 124 TC (2L,5-speed)


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CARL FRIEDMAN wrote:
: Thanks for the headsup guys. I got so fixated on the 4X98 
: spacing of the lugs that I forgot the actual thread size is 
: probably the same as a bazillion metric cars.

The Pacific Rim imports use 12x1.5mm threads while the I-cars use 
12x1.25mm


Pete Angel
Colorado Springs, CO 80922
"No Boring Cars!"
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Thanks, I better carefully read the thread size before I buy.

Carl
Northern Virginia
78 spider (2L,IDFs)
74 124 TC (2L,5-speed)


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Pete Angel wrote:

: The Pacific Rim imports use 12x1.5mm threads while the I-cars 
: use 12x1.25mm

I think it gets more confusing 'cause I believe 850's use 12x1.5 
thread too. At least the wheel studs I pulled from an 850 in the 
boneyard were 12x1.5 - it could have been a aftermarket mod.

Mike
Spidie: '76 124 Spider project 
       ('77 hauled to Pick-a-Part, RIP old girl)
Snort:  '72 124 Sedan (carbed 2l and 5 speed)
Smoggy-Pasadena, CA
http://www.its.caltech.edu/~mulman

Jim,

The only place that I know sells the studs is Bruce's and the 
last time I bought some from him, he kinda grumbled about me 
placing an order for $6. Thats why I was taking them off the cars 
from the bone yard. How many do you need? If you're just a few 
short, I can give you some. I think I have extras. If you need 
16, I can't help much! 

Of course the other problem is the wheel nuts. If you use the 
kind that fit inside the wheel, not the tapered kind like Carl is 
looking for, those are also hard to come by. Pep Boys sells a 
similar type but they were just a tad too long. I ended up 
grinding them a bit so that they fit but its probably not ideal.

Mike
Spidie: '76 124 Spider project 
       ('77 hauled to Pick-a-Part, RIP old girl)
Snort:  '72 124 Sedan (carbed 2l and 5 speed)
Smoggy-Pasadena, CA
http://www.its.caltech.edu/~mulman

Mike Ulman wrote:
: I think it gets more confusing 'cause I believe 850's use 
: 12x1.5 thread too. At least the wheel studs I pulled from an 
: 850 in the boneyard were 12x1.5 - it could have been a 
: aftermarket mod.

 Mike, you are correct (kinda). The "early" 850's (up to mid-'68) 
used the 12x1.5 ("fine thread", common on 124/X19 cars) lug 
bolts on the front wheels & 12x1.25 ("coarse thread") on the rear 
wheels. The "late" 850's (mid-'68 to '73) used the "coarse 
thread" lug bolts on front & rear.

(I'm getting myself confused... when I say "fine thread", I mean 
the threads are very close together (12x1.25=more threads per 
inch). "Coarse thread" to me means the threads are spaced apart 
more (12x1.5=fewer threads per inch). Is that correct to you?) 

 I bought a set of wheel studs/nuts/locks for my 850 a few years 
ago @ Pep Boys. (I removed them, because the studs with the 
keyed, locking-type nut kept breaking/coming loose when I would 
try to remove the wheel (for servicing). I also noted they had 
BOTH sizes available at the time, with proper "conical seat" 
type lug nuts...


Jeff Stich
Yorba Linda, Ca.
http://home.earthlink.net/~fiat850/

1969 Fiat 850 Spider (daily driver/beater)
1969 Fiat 850 Coupe  (Euro. specs & RHD)
1969 Fiat 850 Sedan  (my very first car!)
Rear Engine Fiat Club member

Mike Ulman wrote:
: Jim,
: The only place that I know sells the studs is Bruce's and the 
: last time I bought some from him, he kinda grumbled about me 
: placing an order for $6. 

Yea, wacking a charge card machine for a total $6 sale can be a 
little unprofitable with the per use charge of over $2 plus the 
percentage... add a oil filter or two and all is well. The 
individual studs are NOT $6... way under that!
I sell the studs (Fiat Spider and Alfa 12 x 1.25, 850 12 x 1.50) 
and the acorn nuts in either tapered or sleeved ends( goes into 
wheel..comes in different depths). I also have stud based wheel 
locks for those with very nice wheels.
Or new original chromed lugs.
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BRUCE'S PARTS BIN - Bruce wrote:
: Mike Ulman wrote:
: : Jim,
: : The only place that I know sells the studs is Bruce's and 
the 
: : last time I bought some from him, he kinda grumbled about me 
: : placing an order for $6. 
: Yea, wacking a charge card machine for a total $6 sale can be 
a 
: little unprofitable with the per use charge of over $2 plus 
the 
: percentage... add a oil filter or two and all is well. The 
: individual studs are NOT $6... way under that!
: I sell the studs (Fiat Spider and Alfa 12 x 1.25, 850 12 x 
1.50) 
: and the acorn nuts in either tapered or sleeved ends( goes 
into 
: wheel..comes in different depths). I also have stud based 
wheel 
: locks for those with very nice wheels.
: Or new original chromed lugs.
: Commercial over:)
: BRUCE'S PARTS BIN   Italian Auto Parts on the INTERNET
: Retail Store: 256 Harding Hwy, Rt 40, Newfield, NJ 08344
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I've got studs and chrome nuts. Both 12mm x 1.25 or 12mm x 1.5.
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Mike Ulman wrote:
: I think it gets more confusing 'cause I believe 850's use 
12x1.5 
: thread too. At least the wheel studs I pulled from an 850 in 
the 
: boneyard were 12x1.5 - it could have been a aftermarket mod.

It gets weirder--the earlier cars use 1.25 while the later cars 
use 1.5.

Gregory Smith, Lime Green '72 Fiat 850 Sport Spider
Fiat Enthusiasts Northwest, Seattle, Washington