I have allready been sent 2 of the all too common 1756 radio 
consoles and I want to send them back were they came from! Came 
from a Georgia place starts with a "B". Payed a little extra for 
the 1438 and got same old shit! Mine's been ripped off so I need 
the "guts" with it. Will restore a poor one if it's restorable. 
Willamett Vally. 

What's the difference between the 1438 and the later ones? I've 
had a bunch of these over the years from 69-75 and don't recall 
having any problems with fitment on anyone's cars.

Dwight Varnes, Elizabethtown, PA
Employee of the evil insurance empire
1970 124 Spider 1438cc (pleasure)                        
1986 Audi Coupe GT 2.3 (terrorizing)                     
1996 Subaru Impreza 2.2  (getting the Mrs. to work)
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Dwight Varnes (near Harrisburg, PA) wrote:
: What's the difference between the 1438 and the later ones? 
I've 
: had a bunch of these over the years from 69-75 and don't 
recall 
: having any problems with fitment on anyone's cars.


the older hazard switch is smaller, so the hole in the console 
is smaller. Other than that, they're the same.
(i have an older center console in my car... the newer hazard 
switch just doesn't quite fit right- i have to pull it out to 
turn on the hazards)


Al Williams
Member of FLU
Katy, Tx (near Houston)

'78 Spider (Bella)

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RICHARD FRANKS wrote:
: Mine's been ripped off so I need 
: the "guts" with it. Will restore a poor one if it's restorable. 

I should have one or two in not-so-great condition.  The problem 
is that I will not be at my storage until January (have finals 
soon, then will be leaving for vacation).
If you have not found one by early January, give me a holler.

Csaba
______________________________________________
Csaba Vandor
http://www.geocities.com/f124ss/
Mechanical Power Technology graduate
Seeking employment!
Volvo enthusiast and Fiat fanatic (1970 124 Spider)  

While the radio console from the early model spiders "can be 
interchanged" there are some differences. 1608's and 1438's had a 
emergency flasher switch that flush mounted rather protruted from 
the console. The 1608 is otherwise the same. Not so with the 1438 
 it had/has a unique grill and lay out of the componets (same 
componets as the 1608) there is some other minor diferences. It 
remains for those who wish to pawn one off as a 1438 to confirm 
these minor details! 
RICHARD FRANKS wrote:
: I have allready been sent 2 of the all too common 1756 radio 
: consoles and I want to send them back were they came from! Came 
: from a Georgia place starts with a "B". Payed a little extra 
for 
: the 1438 and got same old shit! Mine's been ripped off so I 
need 
: the "guts" with it. Will restore a poor one if it's restorable. 
: Willamett Vally. 

Couldn't you just use an early faceplate/grille with the later 
middle console then?

Pete Angel 
Forum member since 1998
Colorado Springs, CO, USA 80922
67-69 124 Spiders & Coupe
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Is that what you mean?  I'm kind of confused.  I'm referring to 
the 1970-1972 Spiders that I've seen first hand.

;remains for those who wish to pawn one off as a 1438 to confirm 
;these minor details! 

I think I may have one, but don't think I want to take the 
chance of sending the wrong thing.  It must be winter. :\

troymckaskle wrote:
: Is that what you mean?  I'm kind of confused.  I'm referring to 
: the 1970-1972 Spiders that I've seen first hand.

On the early Spiders the rocker switch is parallel with the 
console.  On the later ones the plastic holder puts the switch at 
an angle to the console so the face of the switch is vertical.
Another difference is that on later models the switch is lighted 
(along with the heater controls).

Csaba
______________________________________________
Csaba Vandor
http://www.geocities.com/f124ss/
Mechanical Power Technology graduate
Seeking employment!
Volvo enthusiast and Fiat fanatic (1970 124 Spider)  

The "hazard" or "flasher" or "emergency lights" switch is a 
rocker, but it mounts flush to the face of the console. Just Like 
the 1608-its the same switch. Unlike the later model rockers that 
 "protrude" inorder to be more easily pressed and seen because 
they are not pointing down from vertical 20 degrees 






Csaba Vandor wrote:
: troymckaskle wrote:
: : Is that what you mean?  I'm kind of confused.  I'm referring 
to 
: : the 1970-1972 Spiders that I've seen first hand.
: On the early Spiders the rocker switch is parallel with the 
: console.  On the later ones the plastic holder puts the switch 
at 
: an angle to the console so the face of the switch is vertical.
: Another difference is that on later models the switch is 
lighted 
: (along with the heater controls).
: Csaba
: ______________________________________________
: Csaba Vandor
: http://www.geocities.com/f124ss/
: Mechanical Power Technology graduate
: Seeking employment!
: Volvo enthusiast and Fiat fanatic (1970 124 Spider)  

Pete Angel (Rocky Mtns, CO) wrote:
: Couldn't you just use an early faceplate/grille with the later 
: middle console then?
Rich responds:
Yes and no- If one starts with a new radio console core-early 
model-(a core is a basic part that is then worked up into a 
finished part)and you have the switch(no longer availible) and  
the light, and the cigarett lighter; then a handy person could 
make  a reproduction. If the core allready has the cut outs in it 
then the reproduction will be more of a challenge and not be 
identical.   

Richard, welcome to the Mirafiori Forum!

For the rest of the readers, Eric Armstrong and I met Richard a 
few weeks back while we were chasing parts for the 128 3p.  
Richard was sorting out some exhaust clearance issues and parked 
on the side of the road.  With that fresh red paint on his 
spider, it was all Eric and I could do to not take out a few 
other cars in our haste to pull over and check out the car and 
meet the owner.  A very nice daily driver, indeed!

Welcome Richard!  Hope those young punks stay away for good.

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Mark Scholz
Portland, OR

'74 124 Spider (Diablo Rosso)
'78 128 3P Berlinetta Sport (Yellow & black)
'67 Mustang coupe
'89 Volvo 745T

RICHARD FRANKS wrote:
: I have allready been sent 2 of the all too common 1756 radio 
: consoles and I want to send them back were they came from! 
Came 
: from a Georgia place starts with a "B". Payed a little extra 
for 
: the 1438 and got same old shit! Mine's been ripped off so I 
need 
: the "guts" with it. Will restore a poor one if it's 
restorable. 
: Willamett Vally. 

Richard, I may have the grille and the part surrounding the 
grille.  Can you send me a photo?  Otherwise I will assess the 
one I have more closely to see if it fits the descriptions.
If you need the whole vinyl section under the dash, then I do 
not have that piece.
Paul M.  
Scottsdale, AZ
1969 Fiat 124 Sport Coupe and others.