Sat 25th May 2002 09:54pm Roll bar fab in Portland (Mike Richmond)
      Sun 26th May 2002 06:15pm Re: Roll bar fab in Portland (George Emery (Oregon))
           Sun 26th May 2002 11:31pm Re: Roll bar fab in Portland (Mike Richmond)
                Mon 27th May 2002 09:07am Answers and questions (George Emery (Oregon))
      Thu 30th May 2002 04:38pm Re: Roll bar fab in Portland (Swede)

12512 Sat 25th May 2002 09:54pm Roll bar fab in Portland (Mike Richmond)
I'm looking for someone who can (re)do a custom rollbar in my 
Spider.

http://www.mirafiori.com/oregon97/images/event/0906_025.jpg

The one that's in there has a diagonal brace, a center brace 
down to the tunnel and custom mounts into the inner fender 
wells/floor pan.  My goal is to use the same mounts, but do 
something that isn't so huge.  Recent ragtops have hoops behind 
each seat, I like that look.  The one I have mounts the 
shoulder belt inertia reel and shoulder belt loop, I want to 
keep that feature.

So, I need a creative metal tube bender in the Rose City.

MikeR (enjoying mirafiori.com since 1995)
'77 Fiat 124 Spider
'76 Fiat 128 4 door
Beaverton, Oregon

'81 Fiat Spider 2000 Anniversary #236
Interlochen, Michigan (summers)

12514 Sun 26th May 2002 06:15pm Re: Roll bar fab in Portland (George Emery (Oregon))
Mike Richmond wrote:
: So, I need a creative metal tube bender in the Rose City.

Well... I've got my bender retested now (concrete didn't crack 
this time!) and will be doing my first rollbar today/tomorrow.  
Bending isn't tough, so if you've got the material and welding 
covered, we can make the bends.

George Emery
gemery@aol.com
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12515 Sun 26th May 2002 11:31pm Re: Roll bar fab in Portland (Mike Richmond)
George, that's a great offer.  If I can figure out a design 
that reuses pieces of the bar I have, then I'm confident I 
could do a decent enough job so that the mounts would still 
line up.  But if it's from scratch, then I think I should sign 
up an expert.  Where do you buy the tubing in town?

MikeR (enjoying mirafiori.com since 1995)
'77 Fiat 124 Spider
'76 Fiat 128 4 door
Beaverton, Oregon

'81 Fiat Spider 2000 Anniversary #236
Interlochen, Michigan (summers)

12521 Mon 27th May 2002 09:07am Answers and questions (George Emery (Oregon))
Mike Richmond wrote:
: Where do you buy the tubing in town?

I must confess that I got mine mailorder... too much hassle to go 
pick some up, so I paid a bit more for shipping some 12' lengths.

What you're looking for is 1.5", 1.75", or 2.00" diameter DOM 
mild steel tubing, 0.120" wall thickness.  Do not get 4130 tubing 
(chrome molly).  There are a number of places in the Yellow Pages 
under Steel Distributors & Warehouses.  Probably "The Steel Yard" 
is a good choice at 6880 NE Columbia 503-282-YARD.

While seamless ERW tubing (electric resistance welded) is 
supposed to be okay, I prefer DOM (drawn over mandrel).  Surplus 
steel is probably available, but once again, for a safety 
application such as a rollbar, I prefer to know what I'm working 
with.

1.5" diameter tubing is legal for autox, but the hillclimbers 
should use 1.75" (unless the car weighs less than 2000 lbs).  
Mike, your rollbar is probably 2" diameter?  The commonly 
available rollbars for 124 Spiders use 1.75" diameter tubing.

So, Mike, just what do you want to do with your bar?  Are you 
just wanting to rearrange the support tubes or do you want a 
completely different main hoop?  The support tubes would just 
need notching and mitered cuts rather than any bends (unless you 
want to get REALLY fancy).

George Emery
gemery@aol.com
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12557 Thu 30th May 2002 04:38pm Re: Roll bar fab in Portland (Swede)
Seek out Norton Gaston's shop in NE Portland off of Sandy and 
105th.  Turn left before the Matress Factory, NW corner of the 
industrial complex on the left side at the botom of the hill 
across the rail road tracks.  I'll try to find his address and 
phone number and send it your way.  The drive alone is worth it 
to see his shop, lots of cool stuff in there, not to mention 
he's an absolutely hilarious guy to be around.

Good luck,
-Stefan->