Wed 20th Sep 2000 02:14am
128s now in FSP?
(Courtney Waters)
Wed 20th Sep 2000 04:11am
Yes
(Mark Seelbinder)
Wed 20th Sep 2000 08:19am
Re: 128s now in FSP?
(Jim Perry)
Wed 20th Sep 2000 01:23pm
what mods you can do
(Courtney Waters)
Wed 20th Sep 2000 02:19pm
look at Street Touring, Street Mod, too
(Mo Soar)
Wed 20th Sep 2000 04:29pm
Re: look at Street Touring, Street Mod, too
(Courtney Waters)
Wed 20th Sep 2000 09:25pm
Fiat hillclimbing in '01
(Mike Mittelstead)
Wed 20th Sep 2000 09:42pm
Hillclimb classes for Oregon'01
(Mike Mittelstead)
Thu 21st Sep 2000 12:27am
Re: Fiat hillclimbing in '01
(Courtney Waters)
Thu 21st Sep 2000 12:30pm
Re: Fiat hillclimbing in '01
(Jim Perry)
Thu 21st Sep 2000 10:35pm
Yes! JP in DSP, except...
(Mike Mittelstead)
Thu 21st Sep 2000 11:53pm
Re: Yes! JP in DSP, except...
(Courtney Waters)
Fri 22nd Sep 2000 08:47am
Yes! JP in DSP, except...
(Jim Perry)
Fri 22nd Sep 2000 12:28pm
Hey...
(Mark Plaia (Santa Cruz, CA, USA))
Wed 27th Sep 2000 04:30pm
Re: Fiat hillclimbing in '01
(Al Williams, Fiat-Houston)
Mon 2nd Oct 2000 12:41pm
Re: Fiat hillclimbing in '01
(Jim Perry)
7284
Wed 20th Sep 2000 02:14am
128s now in FSP?
(Courtney Waters)

According to the San Fransicso Region SCCA page, 128s (along
with 850s, 131s, and Stradas) have been moved to FSP. Is this
true?
Courtney Waters
Davis, CA
'86 X1/9
'78 128 Rally
'76 128 Sedan
http://www.mirafiori.com/~courtney
7285
Wed 20th Sep 2000 04:11am
Yes
(Mark Seelbinder)

Mark Seelbinder
'87 Bertone X1/9, White
#95 DSP Fingerlakes SCCA
Spencerport, New York,USA
http://www.flr-scca.com/gifs/solo/1998/page2.html
7288
Wed 20th Sep 2000 08:19am
Re: 128s now in FSP?
(Jim Perry)

HMMMMMMM....Will this effect us at Ore01 re: the Hillclimb?
There had been talk of us(Fiats) running as a seperate lot to
avoid cramping the local standings,since,well, SOME of us had
pretty smokin' cars...By the way,what can you do to a car in
FSP? What mods are allowed? JP2
79 Brava
85 Nissan P/U
7291
Wed 20th Sep 2000 01:23pm
what mods you can do
(Courtney Waters)

http://www.moutons.org/sccasolo/car_class_rules.html
Courtney Waters
Davis, CA
'86 X1/9
'78 128 Rally
'76 128 Sedan
http://www.mirafiori.com/~courtney
7293
Wed 20th Sep 2000 02:19pm
look at Street Touring, Street Mod, too
(Mo Soar)

Use the link from Courtney and make sure you check on the Street
Touring and Street Mod classes. You'd be a bit under-engined,
but some of the allowed mods make more sense than the Street
Prepared allowances - it's very easy, depending on the smog rules
where you live, to build a Street Prepared car that is not street
legal, and Street Touring addresses that a little better. Also,
many (most, in fact) hillclimb organizations do not use SCCA
preparation rules (the road race or the autocross rules). It's
usually a good idea to think about the type of events you want to
attend, find out which organizations sponsor them and then pick
up the rule books from those specific organizations.
Mo (reen) http://www.pacifier.com/~msoar/fiat.html
Race car: 74 Fiat X1/9, yellow, SCCA DP autox ("Sparky")
Her pet car: 79 Fiat Spider, red ("Sofie")
His pet Car: 74 Fiat X1/9, black ("Blackie")
+ other multi-cultural cars (US, German, Japanese)
7295
Wed 20th Sep 2000 04:29pm
Re: look at Street Touring, Street Mod, too
(Courtney Waters)

Mo Soar wrote:
: Touring and Street Mod classes. You'd be a bit under-engined,
: but some of the allowed mods make more sense than the Street
Even if you're under-engined, chances are you'll be faster than
the riceboys who think sliding/drifting around the track and
making lots of tire squeal is racing :)
Courtney Waters
Davis, CA
'86 X1/9
'78 128 Rally
'76 128 Sedan
http://www.mirafiori.com/~courtney
7302
Wed 20th Sep 2000 09:25pm
Fiat hillclimbing in '01
(Mike Mittelstead)

Jim Perry wrote:
: HMMMMMMM....Will this effect us at Ore01 re: the Hillclimb?
: There had been talk of us(Fiats) running as a seperate lot to
: avoid cramping the local standings.
JP, that was just drunken blather. A "Fiat class" isn't
going to happen, at least not officially. The organizers
were able to put all Fiats into the same SatPM and
SunAM "sessions". Further, they put as many Fiats
as possible into the first "group" of the session for the
conveniece of the Fiat spectators, but also had specific
requests from nearly all competitors to consider. Sessions
and groups have nothing to do with classes at hillclimbs,
they are only related to "when" you run. Sheila did
a fabulous job keeping our runs as close as she did.
On the class thing, five of us entered DSP...kind of adopting
it as a quasi-Fiat class of sorts. None of us were technically
"legal", but hillclimbers aren't the sort to fuss about minor
things. So, we made our own unofficial Fiat class. Obert got
shianghai'ed into FSP when my back was turned, and I thought you
might prefer having HS to yourself. Lil' Mikie's slicks were
abit too much to pawn off into DSP.
7303
Wed 20th Sep 2000 09:42pm
Hillclimb classes for Oregon'01
(Mike Mittelstead)

Mo Soar wrote:
: many (most, in fact) hillclimb organizations do not use SCCA
: preparation rules (the road race or the autocross rules).
Speaking for the Northwest Hillclimb Association (sanctioning
body for the hillclimb at Oregon99, Oregon00, etc), we use a
combination of the above, and a few homebrew classes to
accomodate the wild n' wooly homebrew creations that show up.
First, SCCA autocross Stock and StreetPrepared classes are
offered for vehicles on DOT tires. Second, several of the
more common SCCA roadrace classes are used for vehicles with
racing slicks. Finally, a series of "anything goes" classes
are offered, and are based on displacement and whether or not
the vehicle started life as a transportation device.
7304
Thu 21st Sep 2000 12:27am
Re: Fiat hillclimbing in '01
(Courtney Waters)

Mike Mittelstead wrote:
: things. So, we made our own unofficial Fiat class. Obert got
: shianghai'ed into FSP when my back was turned, and I thought
I probably should've been in FSP too. Of course, my rear discs
would boot me out :) Those will have to come off if I want to
race the Rally for SP points :(
Courtney Waters
Davis, CA
'86 X1/9
'78 128 Rally
'76 128 Sedan
http://www.mirafiori.com/~courtney
7310
Thu 21st Sep 2000 12:30pm
Re: Fiat hillclimbing in '01
(Jim Perry)

OK, just wondered...Realllly,I should be in DSP too,rather than
H stock(for all the good THAT did me,Damn Civic ;-) Since I've
got the 1800 head,port-matched manifolds and bigger carb...The
auto-box kinda puts a crimp on things though. I'm gonna have to
learn to left-foot brake to keep the right foot where it
belongs,jammin' the throttle...plus I want to add the extra
lower-control arms in the rear ala Voss mods. BUT,then again,I
may have something else next year....JP2
79 Brava
85 Nissan P/U
7312
Thu 21st Sep 2000 10:35pm
Yes! JP in DSP, except...
(Mike Mittelstead)

Jim Perry wrote:
: I should be in DSP too,rather than H stock
: I've got the 1800 head,port-matched manifolds
BZZZT! Buddy, Figget is illegal in DSP, not that there's
anything wrong with that. Since we're all friends, you can
run there and not worry about technicalities. You too Court...no
problem with the rear DB, or with the various technicalities on
all the other Fiats in DSP. We're just there to have FUN, not
quote chapter and verse of an ...... set of rules that were
.... .. ..... ...... ... .... ......... (being PC here)
: BUT,then again,I may have something else next year....JP2
Yes! JP inna X1/9. You'll fit fine...trust me.
7313
Thu 21st Sep 2000 11:53pm
Re: Yes! JP in DSP, except...
(Courtney Waters)

Mike Mittelstead wrote:
: run there and not worry about technicalities. You too
Court...no
: problem with the rear DB, or with the various technicalities
on
: all the other Fiats in DSP. We're just there to have FUN, not
I know, but I'd like to get my Rally setup up for next years
autocross season. I've yet to have a car setup well enough to
compete for points, but it looks like this will be the car for
next year.
Courtney Waters
Davis, CA
'86 X1/9
'78 128 Rally
'76 128 Sedan
http://www.mirafiori.com/~courtney
7314
Fri 22nd Sep 2000 08:47am
Yes! JP in DSP, except...
(Jim Perry)

NOT in a Corgi toy! :-)Another Fiat,yes,but time will tell...JP2
79 Brava
85 Nissan P/U
7318
Fri 22nd Sep 2000 12:28pm
Hey...
(Mark Plaia (Santa Cruz, CA, USA))

Jim Perry wrote:
: NOT in a Corgi toy! :-)
I resemble that remark!
Mark Plaia
'81 X1/9
'68 124 Estate
'97 Honda Civic H/back
7356
Wed 27th Sep 2000 04:30pm
Re: Fiat hillclimbing in '01
(Al Williams, Fiat-Houston)

Jim Perry wrote:
BUT,then again,I
: may have something else next year....JP2
Something with a louder horn?
LOL
Al Williams
Member of FLU
Houston, Tx
'78 Spider (Bella)
The Mirafiori Traveller's Friend's List is at:
http://www.geocities.com/broadway/3450/fiat/travellersfriend.htm
7376
Mon 2nd Oct 2000 12:41pm
Re: Fiat hillclimbing in '01
(Jim Perry)

...har-de-har,Al boy...matter of fact,yes it will have louder
horns,it's got new rotors and pads too...Some people forget
(DOH! jim...) to check these before a lOOOng trip...:-) JP2
79 Brava
85 Nissan P/U